Discussion:
Anybody here?
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Warren Okuma
2004-09-24 05:51:07 UTC
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Hello? Anybody still here?
Dan Birchall
2004-09-24 08:35:21 UTC
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Post by Warren Okuma
Hello? Anybody still here?
I'm here, but I'm not still.
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Dan Birchall, Hilo HI - http://dan.birchalls.net/ - images, words, technology
albert the panther
2004-09-24 19:57:11 UTC
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Post by Warren Okuma
Hello? Anybody still here?
I'm here, but I'm not still.
Here, but relatively still. After all, it is a library
and you don't want to dance .... well, maybe you do, but
a library isn't quite the right venue.
Angela Kahealani
2004-09-24 22:32:05 UTC
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Post by Warren Okuma
Hello? Anybody still here?
No BODIES here... this is CYBERspace.

When everyone who comes here seeks to get, the group goes dead.
Rather than asking what you can get here, contribute something!

This week I attended the Tech/iNet Expo on Kaua'i, which as far as I can
recall is the first such event on Kaua'i, though they've been happening
for years on O'ahu (and mabye Mau'i?). It was not huge, but had around
a dozen exhibitors. LavaNet / TikiTech(nologies) was (re)presented by
the Kitster (Hi Kit... thanks for the good talk story!), and was
primarily presenting their new product: "Scora", which appears to be
LavaNet's "Spammo" for non-LavaNet customers. I wish the TikiGeeks
great success.

The focus/target of this tech expo was VERY much BIG business, with some
minor support for small business. In the islands, business by $ breaks
down as:

#1: Tourism (heavily advertising based)
#2: Military (heavily secretive)
#3: Government (see news:hawaii.politics)

There was some presence of government there to support small business.
There was some presence of corporations there to sell communications
technology.
There was an AMAZING presence of support for Military Technology, which
reminded me to be again painfully aware just how very much the islands
are the CORE of Pacific Ocean Military Operations for the armed forces
of the corporation named "The United States".

Commercial Data Systems (http://www.cdsinc.com) was there pushing
Trusted Solaris on Sun Ray Thin Client frame buffers as the way to
converge Coalition, Secret, Top Secret, and Black security level
networks into single workstations for a variety of military slaves
carrying time-oriented crypto-key badges to combine with a PIN to
access what only they "should" access.

What is there to access?

Raytheon was offering Solipsys (http://www.solipsys.com), which was the
software that allows military slaves carrying iPaqs to access the
secure military network from anywhere wirelessly, to get the full
theatre wide display of both real-time real-world warfare, and advanced
simulations to rehearse secenarios of same.

Here around Kaua'i is the planet's primarily multidimensional warfare
exercise range, where they can simultaneously exercise subsurface
(underwater), surface (ocean and land), air and space based targets and
weapons, supported by Kaua'i's Pacific Missle Range Facility at Barking
Sands, mountaintop Radar installations, Space Observations from
mountaintops of Big Isle and Mau'i, and the C4 core underneath
pineapple plantations on O'ahu, the CincPacFlt etc. hardened warfare
command centers. The Hawaiian isles are fully militarized for
everything from Submarines, Ships, Strykers, Airplanes, Missles, and
"advanced propulsion" vehicles which operate from underwater to
outerspace.

That it was of interest to anyone to present this at an
AOLtimeRoadWarner Tech/iNet expo is merely the latest evidence in Big
Brother's not-so-New World (dis)order takeover of the entire planet. I
would understand presenting this tech AT PMRF, but that it was
presented to the general public makes one wonder? just who did they
think they could sell this to other than PMRF? ah, of course...
corporations who would incorporate it in support of PMRF but which are
not brances of The United States, Inc. Armed Forces. So, just which
corporations on Kaua'i do this work for PMRF that these other
corporations are here selling them what they need to sell to PMRF?

Or was it just a psyops to condition the natives to get used to the
totalitarian/military government that's taking over the planet?

Now you know why this group is inactive. Everyone would rather remain
unconscious / unaware / in-denial than actually address what's really
going on around them. Mobettah drink a 6pack at da beach, shred some
waves, and yearn for the good-ole-Monarchy of yesteryear.

For those who don't choose to be unaware, it might be interesting to
access the uncensored internet (you DO know that the search engines
like Google filter what "hits" they return for a search, to exclude
showing certain things to certain populaces?). To do so, you'll want to
turn off the TV, and install a FreeNet node on your computer.

http://freenet.sourceforge.net
http://www.freenetproject.org
http://www.freenethelp.org
--
Copyright 2004 Angela Kahealani. All rights reserved without prejudice;
UCC1-207. All information and transactions are non negotiable and are
private between the parties. http://www.kahealani.com/
Warren Okuma
2004-09-25 01:40:19 UTC
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Post by Angela Kahealani
Post by Warren Okuma
Hello? Anybody still here?
No BODIES here... this is CYBERspace.
When everyone who comes here seeks to get, the group goes dead.
Rather than asking what you can get here, contribute something!
This week I attended the Tech/iNet Expo on Kaua'i, which as far as I can
recall is the first such event on Kaua'i, though they've been happening
for years on O'ahu (and mabye Mau'i?). It was not huge, but had around
a dozen exhibitors. LavaNet / TikiTech(nologies) was (re)presented by
the Kitster (Hi Kit... thanks for the good talk story!), and was
primarily presenting their new product: "Scora", which appears to be
LavaNet's "Spammo" for non-LavaNet customers. I wish the TikiGeeks
great success.
The focus/target of this tech expo was VERY much BIG business, with some
minor support for small business. In the islands, business by $ breaks
#1: Tourism (heavily advertising based)
#2: Military (heavily secretive)
#3: Government (see news:hawaii.politics)
There was some presence of government there to support small business.
There was some presence of corporations there to sell communications
technology.
There was an AMAZING presence of support for Military Technology, which
reminded me to be again painfully aware just how very much the islands
are the CORE of Pacific Ocean Military Operations for the armed forces
of the corporation named "The United States".
Commercial Data Systems (http://www.cdsinc.com) was there pushing
Trusted Solaris on Sun Ray Thin Client frame buffers as the way to
converge Coalition, Secret, Top Secret, and Black security level
networks into single workstations for a variety of military slaves
carrying time-oriented crypto-key badges to combine with a PIN to
access what only they "should" access.
What is there to access?
Raytheon was offering Solipsys (http://www.solipsys.com), which was the
software that allows military slaves carrying iPaqs to access the
secure military network from anywhere wirelessly, to get the full
theatre wide display of both real-time real-world warfare, and advanced
simulations to rehearse secenarios of same.
Here around Kaua'i is the planet's primarily multidimensional warfare
exercise range, where they can simultaneously exercise subsurface
(underwater), surface (ocean and land), air and space based targets and
weapons, supported by Kaua'i's Pacific Missle Range Facility at Barking
Sands, mountaintop Radar installations, Space Observations from
mountaintops of Big Isle and Mau'i, and the C4 core underneath
pineapple plantations on O'ahu, the CincPacFlt etc. hardened warfare
command centers. The Hawaiian isles are fully militarized for
everything from Submarines, Ships, Strykers, Airplanes, Missles, and
"advanced propulsion" vehicles which operate from underwater to
outerspace.
That it was of interest to anyone to present this at an
AOLtimeRoadWarner Tech/iNet expo is merely the latest evidence in Big
Brother's not-so-New World (dis)order takeover of the entire planet. I
would understand presenting this tech AT PMRF, but that it was
presented to the general public makes one wonder? just who did they
think they could sell this to other than PMRF? ah, of course...
corporations who would incorporate it in support of PMRF but which are
not brances of The United States, Inc. Armed Forces. So, just which
corporations on Kaua'i do this work for PMRF that these other
corporations are here selling them what they need to sell to PMRF?
Or was it just a psyops to condition the natives to get used to the
totalitarian/military government that's taking over the planet?
Now you know why this group is inactive. Everyone would rather remain
unconscious / unaware / in-denial than actually address what's really
going on around them. Mobettah drink a 6pack at da beach, shred some
waves, and yearn for the good-ole-Monarchy of yesteryear.
For those who don't choose to be unaware, it might be interesting to
access the uncensored internet (you DO know that the search engines
like Google filter what "hits" they return for a search, to exclude
showing certain things to certain populaces?). To do so, you'll want to
turn off the TV, and install a FreeNet node on your computer.
http://freenet.sourceforge.net
http://www.freenetproject.org
http://www.freenethelp.org
C4 core huh? Well... nice to know you have been keeping busy.
Dan Birchall
2004-09-25 01:58:00 UTC
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Post by Angela Kahealani
Here around Kaua'i is the planet's primarily multidimensional warfare
exercise range, where they can simultaneously exercise subsurface
(underwater), surface (ocean and land), air and space based targets and
weapons, supported by Kaua'i's Pacific Missle Range Facility at Barking
Sands, mountaintop Radar installations, Space Observations from
mountaintops of Big Isle and Mau'i,
Just Maui. Sometime in the last 25 years, the USAF turned over its little
24" telescope on Mauna Kea to UH for undergrad use, and only UH's 88"
telescope and the NASA infrared telescope spend any significant amount
of time looking at things that are even in the solar system, let alone
close enough to be affected by Earth's gravity. The most useful thing
Mauna Kea folks could tell you about Barking Sands is whether any asteroids
are on a trajectory to nail it. :) All USAF's stuff is Maui-based these
days.
--
Dan Birchall, Hilo HI - http://dan.birchalls.net/ - images, words, technology
Angela Kahealani
2004-09-25 03:17:20 UTC
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Post by Angela Kahealani
Commercial Data Systems (http://www.cdsinc.com) was there pushing
Trusted Solaris on Sun Ray Thin Client frame buffers as the way to
I see soon Sun Microsystems will begin to lose another market segment,
as Trusted Linux can begin to displace trusted Solaris:
http://www.gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/27359-1.html

At Friday 2004-09-24 15:58 "Dan Birchall"
Post by Angela Kahealani
Post by Angela Kahealani
Here around Kaua'i is the planet's primarily multidimensional
warfare exercise range, where they can simultaneously exercise
subsurface (underwater), surface (ocean and land), air and space
based targets and weapons, supported by Kaua'i's Pacific Missle
Range Facility at Barking Sands, mountaintop Radar installations,
Space Observations from mountaintops of Big Isle and Mau'i,
Just Maui. Sometime in the last 25 years, the USAF turned over its
little 24" telescope on Mauna Kea to UH for undergrad use, and only
UH's 88" telescope and the NASA infrared telescope spend any
significant amount of time looking at things that are even in the
solar system, let alone
close enough to be affected by Earth's gravity.
Post by Angela Kahealani
The Hawaiian isles are fully militarized for
everything from Submarines, Ships, Strykers, Airplanes, Missles,
and "advanced propulsion" vehicles which operate from
underwater to outerspace.
the last two lines made reference to items that were NOT, as you said,
"affected by Earth's gravity", however these are also not optically
visible, nor even radar visible, nor publically acknowledged to
"exist". Tracking them underwater was one reason for LFAS (the Navy's
Low Frequency Active (understatement of the decade) Sonar), and
telescopes on mountain tops is not the way they track them in "space".

I had an interesting discussion with a guy who was selling crypto
security at the Tech/iNet show about the latest generation of crypto
technology which is quantum-physics based, which the US is both
extremely enthusiastic about, because it will prevent "the enemy" from
cracking the US data/comm, but about which they're simultaneously quite
afraid, since when implemented by "the enemy" the NSA for once won't be
able to crack it.

Meanwhile, back in the lounge... it's time to get ready for Go-Go night
at The Landing Pad here on Kaua'i.
--
Copyright 2004 Angela Kahealani. All rights reserved without prejudice;
UCC1-207. All information and transactions are non negotiable and are
private between the parties. http://www.kahealani.com/
Helen Rapozo
2005-01-07 20:31:40 UTC
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Post by Warren Okuma
Hello? Anybody still here?
Haven't been reading usenet for quite a while,
albert the panther
2005-01-11 21:42:55 UTC
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Post by Helen Rapozo
Post by Warren Okuma
Hello? Anybody still here?
Haven't been reading usenet for quite a while,
Haven't been reading it much myself, since the Manoa
Flood.
Warren Okuma
2005-01-20 02:42:18 UTC
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Post by albert the panther
Post by Helen Rapozo
Post by Warren Okuma
Hello? Anybody still here?
Haven't been reading usenet for quite a while,
Haven't been reading it much myself, since the Manoa
Flood.
Didn't miss anything.

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